Furthermore, the author of the Arizona Atheist blog asked Vilenkin if his theorem with Guth and Borde proves that the universe had a beginning. The Borde-Guth-Vilenkin singularity theorem (or BGV theorem) was developed in by three leading cosmologists; Arvind Borde, Alan Guth. I was watching A debate on cosmology where William Lane Craig uses the Borde , Guth and Vilenkin theorem to say the universe had a.

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Post Your Answer Discard By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you acknowledge that you have read our updated terms of serviceprivacy policy and cookie policyand that your continued use of the website is subject to these policies. One might consider profitably the analogy of the use of imaginary numbers for the time coordinate in the metric of Minkowski space-time, a mathematical trick which suppresses the curvature in space-time and so allows one to treat a pseudo-Euclidean four-space as a Euclidean four-space.

The kalam cosmological argument is particular way to philosophically argue for a space-less, timeless, beginning-less, metaphysically necessary personal being, and all-powerful cause to the beginning of the universe.

Hawking has recently stated explicitly that he interprets the Hartle-Hawking model non-realistically. The original reference is https: Email required Address never made public. For the original paper, and further discussion, see; https: He vjlenkin, the explanation is in His own existence is in His own essence. See here for the clip. Concerning the BGV theorem Craig is correct in saying that the result holds for any geodesic observer with a non-comoving congruence of time-like geodesic test particles which is on average over the past expanding in a generalized sense, within general relativityin the sense that such an observer geodesic is necessarily past-incomplete.

Cause and effect cannot prevent the occurrence of a universe. Craig reject the number zero in his debate with the philosopher Peter Millican: Rather they are ways of modeling the real beginning of the universe ex nihilo in such a way as to not involve a singularity. Luckily, this is discussed at length in A Brief History of Time pg.


Non-self universes can expand. Now I would take a physicists Dr. A lot of people my ex-wife included can live with the irrationality of their beliefs. Such a re-description suppresses and literally spatializes time as well, which makes evident the purely instrumental character of the model. According to Alex Vilenkin eternal inflation and cyclic evolution do not borre a full description of the universe.

[gr-qc/] Inflationary spacetimes are not past-complete

The claim seems to be that since the initial cosmological singularity is a boundary point to spacetime rather than a point of spacetime, therefore there was no time at which God could have created the singularity. This is an argument brought back into the fold of philosophy of religion in the late 20th and early 21st century, and defended successfully in academic debates, books and papers by William Lane Craig. Also thoerem the Big Crunch. This premise is supported by our basic experience that gutn do not come into existence at random.

Sean, A very nice post on a very interesting question.

Borde-Guth-Vilenkin singularity theorem

Being the locus of Good, the real God, is worth worshiping. I think it would be quite silly to assert that the beginning of the universe means that God exists. It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof vilenlin what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.

In establishing a beginning to the universe, and therefore argument for the existence of God the creationist can be comfortable within the the scientific findings of the BGV theorem specifically, and the Big bang theory more generally. I am but a simple student that loves to study Theodicy as well as Cosmology. Carroll guthh Prothero, Krauss, Ward, etc. If science depends on mathematics, for example, mathematics must be un-assumed, scientifically justified and accounted for in order to be used by science.

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Sign up using Facebook. In others words, Craig thinks he can prove that God is the cause of the Universe by assuming that God is the cause gith the Universe.

The question here, then, is if molecules in motion can in fact behold and account. In the past believers could burn me, ban me or punish me severely to weaken my determination to not believe in bullshit.

The God of the Gaps argument is a fallacy used by atheists to depict a conflict between God and Science. By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you acknowledge that you have read our updated terms of serviceprivacy policy and cookie policyand that your continued use of the website is subject to these policies. Anthony, thanks for the clarification about the BGV results.

What Carroll tries to represent as a rebuttal to Craig is really no more than an appeal to an “eternity-of-the-gaps” based on unsubstantiated “suspicions” about what we might learn in the future: By using our site, you acknowledge that you have read and understand our Cookie PolicyPrivacy Policyand our Terms of Service.

The second premise of the Kalam argument is that the universe began to exist.

By Study and Also by Faith. Have something to add? Several possibilities have been discussed, one being that the boundary of the inflating region corresponds to the beginning of the Universe in a quantum nucleation event.

I posted about the ” My Good Friend meme ” — so named by thoughtful reader Ryan — employed in origins debates by materialist advocates.

Usually the emphasis by creationists is the age of the universe and Earth first and then argue about existence of God later.